New G&L Tribute® Series Fallout™ recently announced ...

This was recently posted on G&L's Facebook page:



New G&L Tribute® Series Fallout™ Makes Landfall - Now there's a G&L Tribute® Series Fallout™ to deliver all the fun
at a price that's more accessible to gigging musicians. It starts with a mahogany body loaded with Paul Gagon-designed pickups -
a neck P-90 for rich jangle and a splittable bridge humbucker for meat, grind and spank. Leo's own beefy G&L Saddle Lock bridge
maximizes sustain and improves articulation, while a comfortable medium-C neck with 12" radius makes this axe feel like an old friend.
Read more here: G&L Tribute® Series Fallout™ .

cool , but what is a " meduim C " neck ??

cool , but what is a " meduim C " neck ??

I've asked Dave to characterize what a Tribute "medium C" neck is based upon with the US neck options.

Stay tuned.

--Craig

Nice!

It's interesting to note that mahogany is used quite a lot in the present Tribute line. I'd like to know the kind of "mahogany" and its country of origin as well as what is the rationale behind it.

I remember that, in the past, G&L explained that MFD humbuckers and mahogany was an appreciated combination to tame Leo's latest pick-up designs and got to understand that any MFD (small and large) single coils were also nice with mahogany. And that's how I explained to myself the recent mahogany Comanche and S-500 in the Tribute line. As the USA Fallout is using the classic alder and swamp ash, I'm wondering why G&L went for mahogany instead of swamp ash (and maybe basswood). Supply convienience? Differenciation from the USA line? I'm not saying that it's bad, far from that. I'm just curious. Anybody, any insight?

what will be the availability in EU ?

what will be the availability in EU ?

Same question! And what about the price?

here in the USA James at The Guitar Store has them on his web site , the price is amazing ..... There is no reason why someone can't afford a G & L now

I guess one reason comes to mind, but it's not (my) direct cost, as you say;

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cool , but what is a " meduim C " neck ??

I've asked Dave to characterize what a Tribute "medium C" neck is based upon with the US neck options.

Stay tuned.

--Craig

Nice!

It's interesting to note that mahogany is used quite a lot in the present Tribute line. I'd like to know the kind of "mahogany" and its country of origin as well as what is the rationale behind it.

I remember that, in the past, G&L explained that MFD humbuckers and mahogany was an appreciated combination to tame Leo's latest pick-up designs and got to understand that any MFD (small and large) single coils were also nice with mahogany. And that's how I explained to myself the recent mahogany Comanche and S-500 in the Tribute line. As the USA Fallout is using the classic alder and swamp ash, I'm wondering why G&L went for mahogany instead of swamp ash (and maybe basswood). Supply convienience? Differenciation from the USA line? I'm not saying that it's bad, far from that. I'm just curious. Anybody, any insight?

Here's Dave's replies:

Hi Craig,

I'd characterize the neck as #1b-ish. They tend to be a little shallower than the #1.

The mahogany is from the Asia / South Pacific region, not Africa like the wood we buy for our place. My impression is it's not hard for their factory to keep regular supply and the cost is pretty reasonable. I hope it stays that way because I really like the stuff.

So why'd we go for it on the S-500 and ASAT Special? Just because we can. They have their own supply advantages and production expertise, so I'm always interested in how we tap that to make cool instruments. This wood is a good example. Once we were sure we could do it and make the price work, infatuation with the notion of blending it with MFDs took over.

As for the Tribute Series Fallout, we might have gone with basswood on this one but we were digging the mahogany. If things go well with this model we may expand the range, perhaps trying some different wood and colors.

Thanks, Craig.

Dave

what will be the availability in EU ?

Same question! And what about the price?

They are available for order now. Contact your G&L Distributor for details on ordering and pricing.

Question about the neck pickup: is it an actual P-90 (adjustable steel poles charged by a bar magnet or two) or a Fender-style alnico slug pickup in a soapbar housing? I ask because I can't actually see the typical slotted screw heads of "real" P-90 pole pieces a la Gibson in the photo -- they might well be there, of course, but I can't tell for sure.

I guess one reason comes to mind, but it's not (my) direct cost, as you say;

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It was a comment in James' announcement on FB that caused me to look into the whole 'cort thing' in the first place.

I like the sonic blue but I think it would look 100% better with white or cream plastics.

I like the sonic blue but I think it would look 100% better with white or cream plastics.

Cream would be nice , echoing the yellows in the maple neck.
I could see it naked also , like the SC-2's .

elwood
(...and of course , I knew less than I do now when I linked to the thread. )

I have never had a Tribute in my hands , however I have only heard good things about them , My local G & L dealer doesn't hardly stock any G & L's let alone the Tributes but for the price of this Tribute Fallout I could see buying one for my grandson and maybe using it for a couple years until he's big enough to play it one heck of a deal for a new guitar

Question about the neck pickup: is it an actual P-90 (adjustable steel poles charged by a bar magnet or two) or a Fender-style alnico slug pickup in a soapbar housing? I ask because I can't actually see the typical slotted screw heads of "real" P-90 pole pieces a la Gibson in the photo -- they might well be there, of course, but I can't tell for sure.

The pole pieces on the G&L P-90 pickups are slotted.

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On the G&L site the Fallout is listed under Tribute and USA sections. Does that mean you could get a lefty Fallout with different neck options?

On the G&L site the Fallout is listed under Tribute and USA sections. Does that mean you could get a lefty Fallout with different neck options?

No. The USA Fallout model does not have any neck options. This note is on the USA Guitar Options page: * SC-2, Fallout and F-100 have no neck profile options available at this time.
The Tribute Series currently only has two lefty models: Tribute ASAT Classic "Lefty" and Tribute Legacy "Lefty".

Hope this helps.

cool , but what is a " meduim C " neck ??

I've asked Dave to characterize what a Tribute "medium C" neck is based upon with the US neck options.

Stay tuned.

--Craig

Nice!

It's interesting to note that mahogany is used quite a lot in the present Tribute line. I'd like to know the kind of "mahogany" and its country of origin as well as what is the rationale behind it.

I remember that, in the past, G&L explained that MFD humbuckers and mahogany was an appreciated combination to tame Leo's latest pick-up designs and got to understand that any MFD (small and large) single coils were also nice with mahogany. And that's how I explained to myself the recent mahogany Comanche and S-500 in the Tribute line. As the USA Fallout is using the classic alder and swamp ash, I'm wondering why G&L went for mahogany instead of swamp ash (and maybe basswood). Supply convienience? Differenciation from the USA line? I'm not saying that it's bad, far from that. I'm just curious. Anybody, any insight?

Here's Dave's replies:

Hi Craig,

I'd characterize the neck as #1b-ish. They tend to be a little shallower than the #1.

The mahogany is from the Asia / South Pacific region, not Africa like the wood we buy for our place. My impression is it's not hard for their factory to keep regular supply and the cost is pretty reasonable. I hope it stays that way because I really like the stuff.

So why'd we go for it on the S-500 and ASAT Special? Just because we can. They have their own supply advantages and production expertise, so I'm always interested in how we tap that to make cool instruments. This wood is a good example. Once we were sure we could do it and make the price work, infatuation with the notion of blending it with MFDs took over.

As for the Tribute Series Fallout, we might have gone with basswood on this one but we were digging the mahogany. If things go well with this model we may expand the range, perhaps trying some different wood and colors.

Thanks, Craig.

Dave

Wow! Thanks, Craig.

Thanks, Craig. No lefty Fallout will keep me focused on my next ASAT. Just as well.

Question about the neck pickup: is it an actual P-90 (adjustable steel poles charged by a bar magnet or two) or a Fender-style alnico slug pickup in a soapbar housing? I ask because I can't actually see the typical slotted screw heads of "real" P-90 pole pieces a la Gibson in the photo -- they might well be there, of course, but I can't tell for sure.

The pole pieces on the G&L P-90 pickups are slotted.

Thanks, Craig -- much appreciated.

what will be the availability in EU ?

Same question! And what about the price?

i had some news from the EU dealer... guitars will arrive in about 2 months... i don't know if i can mention the retail price here !

what will be the availability in EU ?

Same question! And what about the price?

i had some news from the EU dealer... guitars will arrive in about 2 months... i don't know if i can mention the retail price here !

No, you may not post new prices of G&L instruments on the G&LDP (see: guitarsbyleo.com History and G&LDP Guidelines.

I guess one reason comes to mind, but it's not (my) direct cost, as you say;

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You are absolutely correct, Elwood...

These guitars come at a heavy price. They also come competing against US made models and US manufacturing, such as the G&L facility in Fullerton.

G&L probably "experiments" with Special Collection wood in the US (Eq Mahogany, Okoume, Indian Walnut/monkeypod, etc) b/c these will be the available materials for offshore production.

I was sorry to see the thread you cited, terminated. This was an important discussion and consideration G&L owners and players need to consider.

what will be the availability in EU ?

Same question! And what about the price?

i had some news from the EU dealer... guitars will arrive in about 2 months... i don't know if i can mention the retail price here !

No, you may not post new prices of G&L instruments on the G&LDP (see: guitarsbyleo.com History and G&LDP Guidelines.

i was sure i read that somewhere !

I like the sonic blue but I think it would look 100% better with white or cream plastics.

Cream would be nice , echoing the yellows in the maple neck.
I could see it naked also , like the SC-2's .

elwood
(...and of course , I knew less than I do now when I linked to the thread. )

I assume these have routing under the PG though, so can't do the naked without a bigger investment of labor. (?)

I guess one reason comes to mind, but it's not (my) direct cost, as you say;

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=8864

You are absolutely correct, Elwood...

These guitars come at a heavy price. They also come competing against US made models and US manufacturing, such as the G&L facility in Fullerton.

G&L probably "experiments" with Special Collection wood in the US (Eq Mahogany, Okoume, Indian Walnut/monkeypod, etc) b/c these will be the available materials for offshore production.

I was sorry to see the thread you cited, terminated. This was an important discussion and consideration G&L owners and players need to consider.

A genuine bummer it went the way it did.

I assume these have routing under the PG though, so can't do the naked without a bigger investment of labor. (?)

Yes, that is correct. And that investment of labor would need to be done aftermarket.

I assume these have routing under the PG though, so can't do the naked without a bigger investment of labor. (?)

Yes, that is correct. And that investment of labor would need to be done aftermarket.

too much work for me

cream + blue looks mucho sexy on the guitar builder though

hiiihaaaa... my band buddy want to buy a fallout... yessssss...

is there a demo clip somewhere ? I only found clips for the US one... :-\

Meursault,

It would take rare circumstances to detect an audible difference between the USA and Tribute models using a Youtube demo.

Maybe if the process was done carefully with exacting detail a high quality mp3 on Soundcloud might be useful. The gear you have to receive and transfer the audio to your ears will be a factor as well.

For instance, there is an abundance of demo video and audio resources for Strat SC's but it takes playing the guitars through the same gear, playing the same thing (a wide variety of styles) and by the same person to pick out noticeable differences. Otherwise, there are just too many unknowns and uncontrolables for this method to be reliable.

You could get some idea searching for P90's in the bridge position but the HB, whether Gogon (Tribute) or SD JB (USA), isn't going to be obvious without you having the guitars in your hands with an amp you are familiar with.

yeah, sure... but it gives an idea anyway and, sometimes, the comments of the guys whos demoing the stuff is appreciable...

Ten great players with tons of experience using a variety of gear can lead you in 10 conflicting directions while being true to their personal experiences.

Here is a G&L ASAT with MFD's compared to a Tele with Joe Barden rail style noiseless pickups. The guy does a good job duplicating the activity on both instruments. The results are useful. He pretty much leaves it up to you to decide what to think about one compared to the other.

Hopefully someone will do a similar A/B between USA and Tribute Fallouts soon.

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